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Louis Huguenin
Southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
04 Oct 2008 19:49 |
Hi, I've just bought a 2000 955 speed triple. Never owned a powerfull road bike before although i have done a lot of motorcross, riding a 250 four stroke. Would be very greatfull for any tips, good points or bad points or any comments really as i would like to learn as much as possible about my lovely machine. look forward to any repleis, Louis.
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Blizzard
Coventry,
United Kingdom
Posts: 24,550
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (04->)
04 Oct 2008 19:54 |
Take it carefully.
It's really easy to get into trouble and tarmac is a lot harder than mud
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Louis Huguenin
Southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
04 Oct 2008 20:13 |
I intend to. I am extremely allergic to pain and i don't want to damage her
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Frank Jones
NY,
USA
Posts: 2,999
Premier Member
Sprint RS (02-05)
04 Oct 2008 21:35 |
And none of that death defying rear wheel steering round corners until you get used to the feel of tarmac.........plus you'll only show everybody else up (me included).....!!!!!
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Red Monkey
Swinging in a tyre,
United Kingdom
Posts: 18,987
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (99-01)
04 Oct 2008 22:23 |
My only tips to an experienced rider would be, if you don't already, learn to do clutchless upshifts
Also learn to corner the California Superbike School way (no argument please ).....be steadily applying the gas from the moment you tip it in as it really takes away the top heavy, flopping into corners feel that the triples can suffer from. Trailing the brakes into corners just doesn't suit the top heavy triple.
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Louis Huguenin
Southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
04 Oct 2008 23:19 |
thanx guys this is exactly the sort of thing i'm after. I will be taking it easy and building my confidance slowly, keep it coming.
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trevski
canterbury,
New Zealand
Posts: 664
Speed Triple T509 (97-98)
05 Oct 2008 07:34 |
factory tyre pressures are 36 front and 42 rear. this is generaly regarded as a bit too much for solo riding. so drop to 32-34 front...and 36-38 rear, should give you more grip and better feedback.
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Red Monkey
Swinging in a tyre,
United Kingdom
Posts: 18,987
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (99-01)
05 Oct 2008 10:07 |
Take all the slack out of the throttle cable and it stops the throttle being so snatchy.
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Ian Newham
Nottingham,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Sprint RS (00-01)
05 Oct 2008 10:42 |
Also if you've come from something with a big front wheel (I'm guessing a motocrosser acts similar to bikes with 18/19" wheels) DON'T panic and hit the front brake mid corner if something goes wrong. Big front wheels on older bikes let you get away with that sort of thing, the Triple will sit upright and carry on in a straight line - into the path of oncoming traffic.
After years of 70s/80s bikes I nearly shat myself the first time I made that mistake.
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Earl
Hiding in the valley,
United Kingdom
Posts: 5,340
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
05 Oct 2008 11:01 |
to be fair as far as my first big bike goes i found the daytona very forgiving, able to use the torque and not so important about what gear i was in.
as said before just take it steady, the last time i rode a cr250 mind it scared the shit out of me.
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Red Monkey
Swinging in a tyre,
United Kingdom
Posts: 18,987
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (99-01)
05 Oct 2008 11:06 |
If you can brake mid-corner and get away with it you could easily have made the corner anyhow......it's basic physics
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Ian Newham
Nottingham,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Sprint RS (00-01)
05 Oct 2008 12:11 |
True - it wasn't that I couldn't have made the corner, it was the big pile of gravel the rain had washed into most of my side of the road...
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Red Monkey
Swinging in a tyre,
United Kingdom
Posts: 18,987
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (99-01)
05 Oct 2008 12:54 |
Better off using the back brake in that case.
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Earl
Hiding in the valley,
United Kingdom
Posts: 5,340
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
05 Oct 2008 13:28 |
i quite often carry a bit of back brake into a corner have found it helps me a lot
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 Barney
SouthWestThePoshBit,
United Kingdom
Posts: 4,708
Premier Member
Sprint ST (05->)
05 Oct 2008 14:35 |
The main thing with a big heavy sports bike is to set the corner up before you get there speed and line use the road so you can see as around the corner as possible and as RM says roll the throttle on don't grab a fist full.
With a 1000cc bike it's easy to give it to much after your 250cc.
just take it easy and don't try to be Rossi or you'll end up like Stoner in a heap.
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bradtx
Pearland, TX,
USA
Posts: 830
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (04->)
06 Oct 2008 13:02 |
Louis, Unlikely you'll have any problems getting accustomed to the heavier bike. Dirt experiance is a definate +++ on the road. The Daytona has already had one crossed up wheelie through a turn and handled sweet as pie. Have fun!
Brad
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mick durbin
boulder colo./u.s.a.,
USA
Posts: 174
Daytona T595 (97-98)
06 Oct 2008 18:16 |
louis , also be REAL aware of the ....closing speed, especially in traffic as it's real easy to get over your head if your not looking out , remember the basic "look in your mirrors and check out the people in cars to see if they are looking in theirs...NEVER assume they are and always assume your invisable ...YOU ARE.
dirt is a great teacher of how to use your foot pegs for control too.
go slow and in a few weeks it will be natural .
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mick durbin
boulder colo./u.s.a.,
USA
Posts: 174
Daytona T595 (97-98)
06 Oct 2008 18:17 |
P.S. i want to go to new zealand.trevski your cruel !!!
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Louis Huguenin
Southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
06 Oct 2008 19:34 |
Thanks again for all the advise, did not expect to get soo many replies. went out sunday done about 90 miles chucked it down with rain but I loved it anyway didn't get over 8000 revs mind you on the motorway just to get a quick idea of the power i had her up to 90 and was only just under 5000 revs, bloody hell how fast do these things go?
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Blizzard
Coventry,
United Kingdom
Posts: 24,550
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (04->)
06 Oct 2008 19:42 |
about 140ish as long as you can hang on
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Earl
Hiding in the valley,
United Kingdom
Posts: 5,340
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
06 Oct 2008 19:48 |
youre not tryin hard enough 
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Blizzard
Coventry,
United Kingdom
Posts: 24,550
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (04->)
06 Oct 2008 19:51 |
tis an S3 955 not a Daytona
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triple queen aka tq
OXFORDSHIRE,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,373
Premier Member
Speed Triple (05->)
08 Oct 2008 16:16 |
Welcome Louis, bet you will be better than most, any off road riders i know are the best 
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Frank Jones
NY,
USA
Posts: 2,999
Premier Member
Sprint RS (02-05)
08 Oct 2008 22:05 |
Grooming Alert!!!!!!!!
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Red Monkey
Swinging in a tyre,
United Kingdom
Posts: 18,987
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (99-01)
08 Oct 2008 22:20 |
Caution: TQ like it up the rutted track with big knobblies
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triple queen aka tq
OXFORDSHIRE,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,373
Premier Member
Speed Triple (05->)
09 Oct 2008 08:43 |
 Now rm your asking for a slap
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Red Monkey
Swinging in a tyre,
United Kingdom
Posts: 18,987
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (99-01)
09 Oct 2008 09:13 |
ohhhh errrrrr missus
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Froggy
Scotland,
United Kingdom
Posts: 242
Premier Member
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
09 Oct 2008 12:30 |
Hi Louis, welcome!
You don't say if you're new to the road or just big bikes, but if I were you I'd try and get booked in for a police assesment down at the local cop-shop.
They basically follow you for a while and point out your flaws ( no, they won't book you for them...unless it's for 90 in a 40!!!) and give you constructive pointers.
The best I managed to get on was a police persuit-riding course which was 2 days of terrifyingly fast roadwork...and it rained the whole time, where you learn to take corners faster but safer. Remember, on the twisties, they can chase down sports-bikes on BMWs!
Though the best advice is very old advice.... "slow in, fast out" ie; it's better to set the corner up and find you COULD have taken it faster rather than getting too far into the corner to find you should have taken it 50mph SLOWER than you expected! 
From the police, the best tip I got was that your braking distance should be less than the visible road ahead. ie; if you can only see 50 yards round the corner, then be at a speed where YOU are comfortable braking down to standstill within 50 yards.
Oh, and...Relax...enjoy...be happy! Triples are made to be fun!
F
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Louis Huguenin
Southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
09 Oct 2008 21:36 |
Hi there, Put new tyres on today,"conti roadattack" heard good things about them and took trevski advise on pressure, and it didn't seem so bouncy but again was told to take it easy on new tyres so i havn't broken any speed limits, but i have been accelerating a bit harder and then backing off but it still feels like there bags left. With the crosser you can lean forward and pin the throttle giving the rider behind you a face full of dirt but what happens if you pin the throttle on the tripple?
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red baron
n\w london,
United Kingdom
Posts: 6,222
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
09 Oct 2008 21:50 |
well it accelerates quite quickly
you may well find your front wheel in the air too
hello btw
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G-San
Blurredhorizonville,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10,051
Premier Member
Enthusiast
09 Oct 2008 23:29 |
Once out of first you can nail the 955 as hard as you like. The front wheel may go light and even lift a little in second, but it's not going to suddenly hoist a minger on you unless you clutch it up or use the old drop it down to 5,000rpm then whack it open technique.
I had a 955 S3 for two years and really enjoyed it. Great bike - you've got a lot to look forward to...
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bradtx
Pearland, TX,
USA
Posts: 830
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (04->)
09 Oct 2008 23:44 |
Louis, If you're weighting on the tank, it's pretty much the same, that is the rear tire spins tho' nobody gets a dirt bath.
The main difference between riding in the dirt and on the street is the technique used in cornering. In the dirt the bike is leaned over, rider on the outside of the saddle more or less upright and the inside leg on the ground. On the road bike one leans to the inside of the turn and moves his/her feet to where the toes are on the peg...never, ever should the foot be on the ground when turning.
Brad
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Big AL
Darn Sarf,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,115
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
09 Oct 2008 23:54 |
Hi Louis
I come from an MX / Enduro background , and have raced various Modern Fourstrokes, (ever ride Park Gate at Eastleigh? ) and now have a Speed Triple
Cant see you will have any probs?? Pop on a set of Renthals or Pro tapers, makes it feel like a MXer only with 120BHP !!
I would say be carefull, in that they turn you into a complete Nutter. Wheeling of the lights like your MXer feels so natural through the gears But will prob get you locked up for 2 years !
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Louis Huguenin
Southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
10 Oct 2008 21:06 |
Did not know there was a track in Eastleigh, I know an area called Park gate but its not quite in Estleigh. Just for a knock around we go to a place in four marks, sometimes Ashdown farn up past Newbury or poppham is good if you like a lot of jumps. and have been doing track and trail enduro events but hav'nt been for a while.
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Big AL
Darn Sarf,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,115
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
10 Oct 2008 22:42 |
Yes Ashdown farm and the big hill .. Did one of the first ever races at Popham as a kid prob 25 years ago !
TnT do good events .. I sponsor / look after Daryl Bolter
( Husqvarana ) , he often designs the course for Mike ..
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mick durbin
boulder colo./u.s.a.,
USA
Posts: 174
Daytona T595 (97-98)
12 Oct 2008 17:13 |
louis.... havent pegged my T-595 yet but my TT600 run to 147 mph , so i should think your bike is able to run 160+ , my super III does that easily. It's 125 hp dyno'd . be careful.
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Riggsy
Coventry,
United Kingdom
Posts: 16,476
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (02)
12 Oct 2008 19:44 |
Hi Louis
Just pin it and find out
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Louis Huguenin
Southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
13 Oct 2008 20:59 |
Hey hey, had a good blast sunday. starting to feel the power of the bike. I love the way the bike seems to have two different engines, the averagely ok one under 8000 revs and the complete scycho f&$k me wher'es all this power coming from, one, over 8000 revs, good job it only goes up to 12000. Noticed a bit of a wobble on a couple of fast bends, i'm hopeing it was just the wind.
hey big al i have seen that Daryl ride, he's reallyreally good!
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urbanfox
Southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 351
Premier Member
Daytona 1200 (93-97)
14 Oct 2008 12:35 |
Hi Louis
Only just seen this thread. Agree with Froggy about the training. You may be interested in Solent Advanced Motorcyclists ( http://www.solent-advanced-motorcyclists.co.uk/ )who do a skills for life course which takes you to your IAM test. Haven't yet done my test but the training has certainly improved my riding. (And to my surprise it's not all hi-vis and pipe and slippers - been pulled up a couple of times for not "making enough progress")
Probably a bit short notice for this month but they meet second Tuesday every month (tonight) at Sarisbury Green
Be good to see a few more Triumphs along.
Cheers
John
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